This guy is obviously an attention seeking douche, but flipping off cops isn't a crime, so the cop was out of line and should go fuck himself. Too bad when cops are out of line they get paid vacations.
Fuck You! Now serve and protect me! Let me know how that works out for you in county jail.
I don't like cops but this guy was asking for it.
Doesn't matter if the stop was legit to begin with. Fact is, the cop did stop him. Once he does stop you, you don't refuse to show him your ID. You comply with his orders, then you got a case. You wanna show your ass, enjoy your free room & board for a night. Asshole.
I've watch a lot of this type of vid and if you have not committed a crime you do not have to identify yourself, its the same in the UK. but just to speed up progress it helps if you do
@vulture. Wrong. You are legally required to provide ID when asked. Period. No court will award this internet lawyer a dime to offset the fines he just incurred for his stupidity.
We're getting more people trolling us in the fire department too. During the riots, one drunk rioter got beaten the fuck up. We put him on a backboard and had a dozen cameras in our faces, asking for our names and badge numbers, telling us that it was an illegal arrest, nevermind that we're firefighters and he was unconscious and had his front teeth busted out.
There were two assholes in this video,don't instigate with a cop because you don't know how corrupt he is.
I believe he was taken in just because he didn't provide ID. You have to show ID. Cop would have run his ID, presumably found nothing and then couldn't do anything. The flipping him off thing doesn't even come into it.
Cop was in the wrong here, he just didn't like being flipped off and then the guy not cooperating was well in his rights not to. Disorderly conduct in most jurisdictions consists of being drunk in public, fighting, disturbing the peace, or loitering. It's very vague and usually cops use it at their discretion as a catch all in order to justify them into being able to search you or your belongings. Most times even if the cop was wrong the burden is on proving that the cop was intentionally trying to cause you harm or malicious prosecution but since a lot of laws are at the officers discretion and are not so clear cut it really is difficult to sue a cop
Hey, at least he wasn't black. Mace to the face sure beats living a pulp fiction reinactment.
@realtalks The cop was wrong for pulling the guy over just because he got flipped off. But once you're at that point, the driver still has to show his driver's license & insurance.
Another thing is you don't necessarily have to show ID to a cop. Most encounters with cops fall under 3 things, consensual, detain, or arrest. Now a cop can stop and just ask questions to you without any regard, could be friendly or they could be looking for something but they have no reasonable suspicion to detain you. Easiest way to find out what type of stop is to ask if you're free to leave. If you can leave then just leave. If you're being detained then the cops have reasonable suspicion that you have, are in the process of, or are about to commit a crime.
Many states have stop and identify laws but reasonable suspicion is needed, an ID is not necessarily needed but you can be required to provide your name and possibly some other biographical data to identify you.
During an arrest you are required to provide your biographical data so that the officer can complete the arrest report, some people want to make this difficult so they end up spending a few days in jail while their fingerprints are being run.
There's good and bad cops just like there's good and bad people out there, not every cop is out to do you harm or give you trouble, I follow the give me respect and I'll do the same to you but if you wanna be a dick then you have to deal with the consequences. Hope this helps all you crazyshitters and stay out of trouble!
The cop should have lectured the guy like a little kid and let him go with a warning...tell him if he makes it a habit of flipping off cops, eventually he come across a cop that won't be as nice as him. By arresting him, the cop just made more work for himself.
I am the cop in the video !
The cop should have just given him the finger back and said have a nice day bitch.
What surprises me is so many of these "vigilantes" seem more knowledgeable about the law than the cops. I think the police need a refresher course on the Bill of Rights.
Just shaking his head, Robert Hallock
Well that went well.. DUMB ass..
BTW The rioter was beaten up by other rioters.
LOL THAT WAS FUNNY
You're not required to show identification unless your a Mexican in AZ.. then you have to show them 2 forms of ID, a birth certificate a passport and sacrificial goat.
Real talks nailed it. Before everyone had a portable recording device, cops could pretty much do or say as they wanted since it would be your word against theirs. But like he said you DON'T have to identify yourself if you don't have a reason to and are not being detained. It's a matter of if you are willing to endure the temporary consequences for not complying with an officers requests. Most people just give it up because they don't know their rights, are afraid of getting arrested, or being roughed up by the cops.
The guy got to spend a night in jail and have his car towed, and nothing happened to the cop. He's made his point though about the supreme court-and got to be a dick to the cop. Hope he enjoyed the crack head gay boys in the pens.
Cop gets the last laugh.
He baited the cop by flipping the Cop off the ASSHOLIC GREASY SHIT BAG!!!!
Cops are not required to 'know the law'. They are schooled in general areas, chapters and units of statutes if you will, but any detail isn't necessary. They ARE however, evidence gatherers. Here is where keeping your mouth shut helps the most. If you choose to ID yourself, fine. But, for shit's sake don't think you can 'just tell my side' and the cop is going to consider it and you'll stroll away. There's a reason for Miranda readings, but the cop is gathering information and evidence THE INSTANT HE OPENS HIS MOUTH TO YOU. Many times what you spill that he needs to continue or have probable cause comes out of your mouth L O N G before you're arrested and advised of your rights. The officer is NOT an expert on the law nor the latest SCOTUS rulings. The roadside is NOT where you argue your rights or any such drivel. Save that for the Court, where it's supposed to be determined.
I once had the occasion to need a felony lawyer. After it was tossed out and he'd long since collected the $5k upfront, he told me: "If you can do three things, I can almost assuredly get you out of most trouble. 1). Keep your mouth shut. 2). Keep your damn mouth shut. 3). Keep your fucking mouth shut. 60% of what they convict you with either comes directly out of your mouth or your blabbing gives them leads and hints where to look for further evidence or even brand new charges."
@realtalks Learn that law real talks, if you're DRIVING a car, and a cop pulls you over, you have to produce ID, sorry, it's the law, so don't go posting big paragraphs about shit you obviously don't know anything about.
^^^^ I beg to differ. What would you be charged with if you failed to show ID?
Hey captjim- I know the law real well since I've studied it asshat, please tell me what the probable cause was for pulling the driver over? And second don't try and school me on what the fuck I'm talking about cause I guarantee I know more law than you so I'll keep this one short and end it with a fuck you,
we will be well happy that he got the moral highground when leroy and his pipe hitting homies are train raping him in the pen. Maybe he loves that shit, probably the reason why he is doing this so he doesn't have to pay to get arse fucked
the trick is to flip them off only when their backs are turned to you.
props from germany for all the pighaters in the world !!! shoot these despicable urinedevourers in the face !
@realtalk, study more bro. You don't even need to be driving. You can be stopped while walking and asked for ID. When asked, you are required to provide it. Probable cause? Seriously? Any cop can pull up a MILLION reasons when needed. It's not a search, it's not an arrest. It's a request for identification and refusing will have your ass in jail until you provide it or fingerprints establish it. There's more than a few jailhouse lawyers sitting in jail telling the jailers about their "rights" as we speak. The dumbass lost this one, and lost it for a reason.
@Scduhl I think you misspelled Jew you kraut piece of shit.
Obviously you dontunderstand.... Read your law books some more
ADAM RUPEKA OF COP BLOCK..I can only hope that one day when you call 911 for an emergency, that nobody shows up.
@donunder if more people would stand up for themselves in general and not be such sheep the cops wouldn't be able to get away with half of the stuff that they get away with. Don't just follow along because that's what people have always done, it's good to know your rights as a human being and an American citizen.
@bobbabooey - You're gettin' negs from here on out for being a firefucker and an anti-German.
How modern law works: The cop can stop you or pull you over for whatever reason they want. Even if you have broken no laws, once they tell you to do something and you don't BAM: non-compliance/ hindering an investigation/disorderly conduct. They tell you to step out and you don't, BAM: resisting arrest (felony). You can talk back, complain, cry, get a temper but that will only make them look like they where right in any action they take after.
The cop literally made him cry him a river. Beautiful.
he has a good lawsuit there. arrogant overpaid ignorant cop. sorry, I'm for cops but this guys is a disgrace.