What a pussy!!! That's nothing. That's a flesh wound. He needs to walk it off.
That might have been funny if it wasn't a terrorist propaganda film. I thought I had linked to Al-Jazeera (sp) for a second.
awwwwwwwww that shit hurt me!!! Guychips is Gay!
Two myths that need to be abandoned:
1. The U.S. always has honorable motivations for waging war. (It is rarely motivated by anything other than money and power)
2. Israel is a persecuted nation. (Sometimes, but Israel, but the U.S. gives Israel collosal amounts of support, Israel carries out just as much terrorism as do the Arabs. The only difference: because of all the money they can afford uniforms.)
Michael Moore's new film.
With ya Thundermug.
Now that I think of it; if our American soldiers wore street clothes like the enemy does then the war might be seen for what it really is: a bunch of poor bastards killing each other for other people who don't give a shit when they die.
When an Iraqi insurgent takes up arms he thinks he's doing it for Allah and to drive the invaders out of his country. An American soldier thinks they will be going to school on the G.I. Bill and playing a lot of Halo when this is all over. Dont get me wrong, I love our troops but no one, not the soldier, not you, not me, not anybody in America but big business will benefit from "winning" this war. George Bush couldnt give a shit whether the Muslim world gets "democracy" or not. That was just a second lie to tell after he got caught telling the first one. If he really cared he might offer "democracy" to all his friends in Saudi Arabia.
After 9/11 we had a golden moment when the whole world loved us and felt sorry for us. Its sad that those people died but at the same time it erased a lot of enmity between us and the rest of the world. The outporing of love and support was beautiful. We could have tracked down Bin Laden with the support of the entire free world. BUT NOOOOO. Bush, like the profoundly retarded cowboy he is decided to piss it all away like a drunken sailor on shore leave. It will take decades to get back to the point where everyone only hated us. The only thing I can say is LOOK AT HISTORY. Look at what happened to Rome when they pulled this kind of shit. We are so fucked there isnt a word for it.
zazu - I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with you in part. I agree that Isreal makes a lot of it's own trouble. And I agree that we give them way too much support... I never firgured out why we send money and arms to a rich country that can afford their own shit. BUT, it is still a terrorist propaganda tape meant to stir up ill will.
If we didn't support Israel, there would be a second holocaust at the hands of the muslims. I don't necessarily agree with their policies, but I don't agree with not supporting them militarily.
Yokiti: they are just playing the game by the established rules of conduct.
Rome fell due to its decadence as much as its overstretching of it's military. We have a problem with the first. We are too fat and lazy, and we accept people taking advantage of our generosity through foreign aid and using our military to solve world problems. We will soon have a problem with the second. The UN army? Even though they wear blue helmets, they are predominantly US soldiers. But if we were a seperatist nation, we would be even more hated. So what is your solution, Zazu? Bush aside.
zazu, I'm glad you wrote this so we could see the level of misinformation that you are at. There is NO such thing as an Iraqi insurgent. Insurgent means foreigner using violence to influence local politics. Yes, we are also 'insurgents' in Iraq, the difference is that we want the Iraqi people to make their own decisions regarding their country and we will let them once they have the necessary control over their infrastructure. Insurgents are foreign Muslim extremists who want Iraq to bend to their version of Islam. They do NOT want the Iraqi people to govern themselves, they want to exterminate all Iraqis who don't believe exactly what they do. They are responsible for the vast majority of Iraqi deaths. Stop pretending that you are well informed and go read a book. We ARE doing alot of good things there. WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS!!!
Join in in the forums, zazu. I promise I won't bite. I think you have good points, I just think they are obscured by a blinding hatred of Bush. :)
Bush aside, we need to try some genuine cooperation with other countries even if they piss us off. The U.S. became arrogant and seperatist because of its vast wealth and vast actual distances between us and the rest of the world. But those distances have been closed for a long time although we have hung onto our attitude.
I'm not a polititian but I observe politics and history. Now that I think again about Rome the Romans did something that we are loathe to do; They offered citizenship with all rights and priveledges to cooperative people in conquored territories. America on the other hand is very into exporting industry in agreeance with the capitalistic dogma of minimizing the bottom line.
I dont know what the answer is maybe it means being a little more cooperative politically and economically becoming more isolationist. I'm sure a political scientist could explain all sorts of pitfalls in that simple plan but it seems to work for other countries.
Incidentally I do not hate Bush as a person. Clearing brush and chasing armadillos around his property he's just fine but when it comes to running a country he is an unqualified failure. Scholars are bypassing Nixon in their analogies and are going all the way back to Buchannon when they need to find someone to say he's worse than. Its become obvious over time that someone like him couldnt actually get elected, not without puppetmasters and some extremely fortunate circumstances falling in his favor. He is the figurehead of a very dark Orwellian scheme to grind the little people under the heel of a neocon dictatorship to beat all.
I'd love for us to become a bit more isolationes economically. Make American Company employ Americans and Legal Aliens in AMERICA. Let's stop letting the Chinese flood our market while it allows the companies within it's borders violate our copyright and make cheap copies of our stuff instead of allowing us to import. Keep American money in America for Americans! You are absolutely fucking right there zazu!
Pablosdog: Thank you for browbeating me over my errant terminology. Remove the word insurgent and replace it with anything you like. You are using a tactic often employed by the right wing, that being; splitting hairs to confuse and derail the issue. The point is; If we are doing any good there at all it is merely as an unavoidable side effect of flexing our military muscle.
Oh, here we go again, Back to the evil empire.
If bringing aid and democracy were our main motivation for military actions then why didnt we do anything for Rwanda where little children were being hacked to death with machetes, or East Timor or half a dozen other places where help is genuinely needed. You know why we didnt? Because they have nothing we want and they are a little too brown.
Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics, even if you win you're still a retard. So everybody who disagrees with me: thats fine, I give up. I gotta go earn a living now.
Off to work at DNC Headquarters probably. Not knocking, probably a good living.
pablosdog is a fag
zazu,please accept my apologies. I was browbeating and that cuts off productive discourse on important topics. I have some mental illnesses that let me get shitty with people sometimes. I would have liked to have had this discussion in an adult manner. Unfortunateley I have to go to work too. Bye. please come back later and we'll talk.
Money Money Money and put a puppet regime in place. That is our goal. USA is the land of the free-er. Where else in the world can Paris Hilton become a famous person. The whore. Well that image was pretty bad and when these chongos like 50 cent and master P say I was raised in the hood, no that guy on the fucking video was raised in the the hood. You are just a couple of ignorant smokes who white kids made rich.
Hey Zapu Zitts, quit listening to NPR and Michael "fatfuck" Moore
FYI big guns; Dont mistake me for a tree-hugging- ultra-liberal. I have liberal AND conservative views. I dont like slanted news services even if they slant way to the left. Should I be gobbling up that shit they dish out on Fox news? Michael Moore may have his faults but anyone who points out that the emperor has no clothes will always be the target of counterattacks. The bottom line is; whether you are republican or democrat, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its probably a duck. Mr. Bush and company walk and quack like a corrupt, bullying and inept administration. If you choose to ignore the mountain of staggering evidence and the facts have to be explained to you then you are just exactly what he wants you to be, willfully ignorant. Just another lamb being led to the slaughter. You might never understand.
By the way Propaganda Minister Karl Rove otherwise known as "Bush's Brain" could stand to lose a few pounds too.
in reference to this video. I would like to say that alot of people are thinking the soldiers should be helping this guy and giving him first aid. You would be wrong because there is no way of telling if he is booby trapped (hehe he said booby). Alot of Israelis have been killed that way.
I am shockingly astonished that I agree with zazu on most points. Not all of her points, but I do find myself seeing completely what she says. HOWEVER. Had George Bush not been in office on 9/11, what would have happened? another strike in a month, a week, a year? A terrorist regime working in plain view of its country to defeat the United States rather than in hiding, which makes things more difficult if not impossible? I still don't understand the decision to go into Iraq, and don't know if I will ever be able to reconcile it with what I wish to believe America stands for. BUT, I do believe that going to Afghanistan to attack the terrorists where they live was the BEST thing that we could have done, and well, I think, if, God forbid, Al Gore would have been in office, or even Bill Clinton(who regardless of his sexual proclivities was a good president and a good man), we would have sat in shock after those towers fell, until someone somewhere in the government said, hey, lets do something.
Here's another justification. The world trade center... that was simply a terrorist attack, albeit a very successful one. The attack on the Pentagon was an act of war. That was one Al Qeada attacking a military installations, headquarters for the entire U.S. Armed Forces, killing hundreds. An act of war I say.
Sheer angel. Only one correction; Zazu Pitts was a woman but I am a guy. I just liked the name.
I could have handled Gore as a president, at least he is intelligent even if slightly wishy washy. 9/11 or something like it was bound to happen eventually. Up until then we were about the only developed Western nation that didnt have terrorist activity. I also agree that future generations will look back on Clinton as a good president. When he left office we had a budget surplus for Christ's sake, now we have the biggest deficit in U.S. history. That alone should be cause for impeachment.
A budget surplus and breached national security. Dammit Zazu, come to the forums! we don't need to debate here! An educated viewpoint is always welcome.
zazu, please visit the forums!!! Your opinion will be respected!!! There are a lot of smart people in the forums and I actually learn some things from all you people!!! username, I would even like to hear from your "GAY" self!!!
I voted for NADER.
zazu - I thought you left for work... 3 hours and your back? You MUST work for the DNC.
He forgot to mention how many palestinian terrorists... Oh yea, they must not exist. My bad.
to pablosdog.i have seen many of your comments,remeber the one you said you traveled four continents ,i we remember how much crap you talk ,you think the mighty usa does fuck all for countrys to hate usa or isreal,you told someone to go and read a couple of books ,all i say to you is open your eyes and stop trying to be smart arse who thinks they know everything when you clearly dont ,
yokiti - No I do not work for the DNC. I am a self employed artist who works at home. Getting involved in theses chats can be very time consuming. Without self dicipline I could end up here all day. I got much more involved than usual. In fact I am surprised at myself for writing this entry. Sheesh.
I had something funny to type, but I forgot what it was after reading 'War And Peace' on the comment board.
Oh, unemployed then. No big deal, we all fall on hard times.
Did that jawa fall off his skateboard or what?
Lusername is still and will for ever be gay
uh yes scottishjock, clearly.....huh
OUCH that had to hurt!!!!!!!
zazu pitts u fu^%& @$$hole what are u stupid or what read the news those arabs are catching innocents reporters and beheading them thier bible tells them to kill who ever is not muslim read the verses that i worte over here it's from asite that explains the quran and u will understand what kinds of people israel has to deal with:Quranic verses that dictate beheading Kaffirs:
5:33-“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution (by beheading), or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;”
8:12- “I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.”
47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.”
9:123: “Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.”
2:191- “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out.”
5: 45-- “We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear. Toth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.”
2:193- “Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah”
9:29- "Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, (Christian and Jews) who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute (Zizziya tax) by hand, being inferior.”
8:17-It is not ye who Slew them; it is God; when thou threwest a handful of dust, it was not Thy act, but God’s…..” (Allah is a real merciful indeed!).
now read it good and wake up they want to kill the world or let the world belive what they belive in
ronsxi; I dont have as much time on my hands as you obviously do but most people who site negative passages of the Koran usually have the bible in the other hand. If you will open up that (even older) book you'll find that there are probably just as many verses telling it's believers to do the same things. Like sacrificing a thousand foreskins to Jehovah or paying a woman you raped to wipe away your sin and make her a whore.
You are siting a book written over a thousand years ago. Also if you will look at recent history you will find that all of this violence has its roots in the importation of oil and the exportation of American "culture". They didnt start it. Get that through your thick skull. THEY didnt start it. Someone once said "A life unexamined is not one worth living." Or as the Jesus so eloquently put it "Take the timber out of your own eye before you remove the splinter from your brother's" Thats good advice. Take it. Oh and by the way Fuck You too.
hahaha great debate zazu... finally someone who has a brain on here... some people in this world are just not gonna get it... they are born by misreable people and live misreable their whole life and die like the peice of shit they were when they were born... I was gonna read what ronsxi just wrote ... but his first line fucked him with his own dick by saying: ( zazu pitts u fu^%& @$$hole what are u stupid or what read the news ) I got that far and started laughing too hard to read on... some people man hahahaha... I dont know if they are even worth it to throw up on!!! and FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK ISRAEL ... THEY ARE THE REAL TERRORIST, u guys that live here have no fucking idea the shit these assholes do, and you sit there and wonder why there are terrorists. And we give those jew bagels billions of dollars each year from our tax payers money. So for you who don't get it yet... go suck some more jewish dick and get beheaded by a muslim, just leave me out of it!
all u done bitching NUKEM
NUKE EM ALL
no need for a nuke that guy just needs to walk it off, it is just a flesh wound ya know :)